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Com_Ryo
Nombre de messages : 25 Age : 34 Location : japan Date d'inscription : 24/08/2007
| Sujet: Iroha-Uta(all kana word's poem) Mar Sep 25, 2007 6:27 pm | |
| Iroha-uta is poem which is used in all (old)Japanese hira-gana.
(written in all hiragana) いろはにほへと ちりぬるを わかよたれそ つねならむ うゐのおくやま けふこえて あさきゆめみし ゑひもせす ん
(witten in kanji) 色は匂へど 散りぬるを 我が世誰ぞ 常ならむ 有為の奥山 今日越えて 浅き夢見じ 酔ひもせず ん
(*old Japanese words and grammer) *ゐ(wi) ゑ(we)
*にほふ,匂ふ(Nihohu)>read (Niou) *有為、うゐ(uwi)>read (Ui).means transience *ゑひ、酔ひ(wehi)>read(yoi) *ん(n)>means "end"
(meanings) As flowers are brilliant but (inevitably) fall, who could remain constant in our world? (No one could) Today let us transcend the high mountain of transience, and there will be no more shallow dreaming, no more drunkenness.
It is so famous porm in japan. Do you like this poem?Do you know other poem used all hiragana-word? Do your country have poem like that? | |
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Nico Admin
Nombre de messages : 213 Age : 38 Location : France Date d'inscription : 23/08/2007
| Sujet: Re: Iroha-Uta(all kana word's poem) Mar Sep 25, 2007 6:56 pm | |
| that's nice, but hard to read i don't know many poems here in France, but we haven't as much kinds as in Japan | |
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mustakrakish
Nombre de messages : 57 Location : Poland Date d'inscription : 10/09/2007
| Sujet: Re: Iroha-Uta(all kana word's poem) Mar Sep 25, 2007 11:46 pm | |
| I like japanese poems (little poems, even if it's a one sentence(?) - I still like it because I can think about something else... Jump off from the realityor something like that. There are (ok let's call them) 'poems' on our notes here in poland, but they are writen in kanji - and I'm not sure if are translated very well <(^_^)"
Good job anyway! I hope you'll post something else soon. | |
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mei
Nombre de messages : 48 Location : Tokyo Japan Date d'inscription : 31/08/2007
| Sujet: Re: Iroha-Uta(all kana word's poem) Dim Sep 30, 2007 5:10 pm | |
| I remember that when I got to know every letter use only once, I was very surprised. and every line has same rithm. 7 letter plus 5 letter (I know hard to make this for japanese, dayone ? com-ryo?) Old Japanese were more clever than Present Japanese may be | |
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Com_Ryo
Nombre de messages : 25 Age : 34 Location : japan Date d'inscription : 24/08/2007
| Sujet: Re: Iroha-Uta(all kana word's poem) Mer Oct 03, 2007 4:43 pm | |
| Thanks Nico^^/I think French have great poems! - mustakrakish a écrit:
- I like japanese poems (little poems, even if it's a one sentence(?) - I still like it because I can think about something else...
Jump off from the realityor something like that. There are (ok let's call them) 'poems' on our notes here in poland, but they are writen in kanji - and I'm not sure if are translated very well <(^_^)"
Good job anyway! I hope you'll post something else soon. Thanks writting me^^/ah...Poland poem is written by kanji? ?
Dernière édition par le Mer Oct 03, 2007 5:15 pm, édité 2 fois | |
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Com_Ryo
Nombre de messages : 25 Age : 34 Location : japan Date d'inscription : 24/08/2007
| Sujet: Re: Iroha-Uta(all kana word's poem) Mer Oct 03, 2007 5:12 pm | |
| - mei a écrit:
- I remember that when I got to know every letter use only once, I was very surprised.
and every line has same rithm. 7 letter plus 5 letter (I know hard to make this for japanese, dayone ? com-ryo?) Old Japanese were more clever than Present Japanese may be hehe It was so difficult to make it. before having made "Irohauta",there were used some "poems" to learn japanese kana. ex,tawini-no-uta 大為爾の歌(たゐにのうた) (written by manyo-gana,not kanji^^;; ) 大為爾伊天 奈従武和礼遠曽 支美女須土 安佐利於比由久 也末之呂乃 宇知恵倍留古良 毛波保世与 衣不弥加計奴*无 (written by Hira-gana) たゐにいて なつむわれをそ きみめすと あさりおひゆく やましろの うちゑへるこら もはほせよ えふねかけぬ*ん (written by kanji) 田居に出で 菜摘む我をぞ (I am going rise-field.picking greens) 君召すと 求食り追ひゆく(you call (me) than. want food and chase) 山城の 打酔へる子ら((Please)drank children of mountain-castle) 藻葉干せよ え舟繋けぬ((take away and)make dry the algae,(or we) can't be fasten our ship) but..It is very strange meanings^^;; Japanese like 5-7-5-7-.....poems.hehe By the way,the peason who made irohauta is very claver,It's called cipher.Read all 7th word. いろはにほへ と ちりぬるをわ か よたれそつね な らむうゐのお く やまけふこえ て あさきゆめみ し ゑひもせ すto,ka,na,ku,te,shi,su=(罪無くて死す。)means(I will be killed by innocence)hehe..^^;;
Dernière édition par le Jeu Oct 04, 2007 4:31 pm, édité 2 fois | |
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mei
Nombre de messages : 48 Location : Tokyo Japan Date d'inscription : 31/08/2007
| Sujet: Re: Iroha-Uta(all kana word's poem) Mer Oct 03, 2007 8:33 pm | |
| yeah, very clever. I prefer IROHA uta better than TAWINIno uta. both sounds and meanings. how about u Have u ever read comics of "Asaki yume mishi"? in one scene , one woman read IROHA uta. I liked that scene. | |
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Com_Ryo
Nombre de messages : 25 Age : 34 Location : japan Date d'inscription : 24/08/2007
| Sujet: Re: Iroha-Uta(all kana word's poem) Jeu Oct 04, 2007 4:34 pm | |
| - mei a écrit:
- yeah, very clever. I prefer IROHA uta better than TAWINIno uta.
both sounds and meanings. how about u Have u ever read comics of "Asaki yume mishi"? in one scene , one woman read IROHA uta. I liked that scene. I heard it somehow^_^/hehe...but I don't know much about it. I agree japanese today is not so clever than ever^^;; humm..Do you know something more about Classic Japanese? | |
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mei
Nombre de messages : 48 Location : Tokyo Japan Date d'inscription : 31/08/2007
| Sujet: Re: Iroha-Uta(all kana word's poem) Jeu Oct 04, 2007 8:55 pm | |
| I was very poor in Classic Japanese古文 and Classic Chinise漢文 when I was in High school. That's why I read "Asaki Yume Mishi" instead to read original "Genji Monogatari". That was very helpful for me to understand Genji Monogatari. >Do you know something more about Classic Japanese? I learned it but almost forget. I still remember some but not much. May be you know more than me Do u know "Kaze no tani no Nausicaa"'s idea came from "Konjyaku Mongatari"? Director Miyazaki said that in one interview. "Mushi mezuru himegimi" was one of the source of Nausicaa. | |
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